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Fender · Apr 19, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by lucifer_uk

LOL I was joking.

Oh.... I thought you thought they unlocked all skills on a toon or something.

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In seriousness I would think they would be a bit more than 2.5k until enough flood the market.

That's why I said "settle." But I can't see people paying more than a few K when you can go out and cap most elites in 10 to 15 minutes, there are exceptions, especially the prophesies ones that are buried in snake dance or late in a mission, but for the most part elites are quite accessible in Factions and NF. People were bitching and complaining about having to pay gold to learn skills they already have unlocked on their account, but people are already putting high gold values on these items. That baffles me. The elite tomes are paying for convenience and will always be more than an SoC costs. The regular ones are the gold savers and will always be less than a maxed out skill cost, or 1k

Rarity doesn't matter here, it is all about utility, for whoever responded with the drop rates, etc.

Mordakai · Apr 19, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Wow, I was thinking I'd just skip on hard mode and finish some other titles first...

But the drops just tipped this way into Hardcore territory.

I think I'll be trying this out as much as I can this weekend...

Diddy bow · Apr 19, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by frickett

color me impressed, I think this is gonna be a great update...I will prolly get uberganked though...im not very good at this game anyway...but I will enjoy trying.

no doubt any teams for this will be uber elitist like doa

ack well proberly soloable anyway, hard mode trolls ftw! XD

Arkantos · Apr 19, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Ritualistic Spankin

So...I trust the wisdom title track will count also, since that is incorporated into salvaging. I work on my wisdom track much more than my treasure hunter one.

Don't think so.

Ritualistic Spankin · Apr 19, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

I don't see why wisdom would be included, and when Gaile mentioned lockpicks earlier I think she only mentioned treasure hunter and lucky as well...

You have no idea how saddened that makes me....*digi-tear*

Ritual del Fuego · Apr 19, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

I wonder if you will have to start from the beginning of a continent in hard mode or if you can zone into any hardmode area if you have already been there in normal mode.

Ritualistic Spankin · Apr 19, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by Ritual del Fuego

I wonder if you will have to start from the beginning of a continent in hard mode or if you can zone into any hardmode area if you have already been there in normal mode.

On the guildwars fact sheet webpage there is a clickable picture, it shows all of the towns and misison on the map segment, clearly in hardmode. However there has been no exploring done. That is what I think it will be like in hardmode, all the outposts you already have, but a new 'fog of war'.

Vyldan · Apr 19, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Ritual del Fuego

I wonder if you will have to start from the beginning of a continent in hard mode or if you can zone into any hardmode area if you have already been there in normal mode.

I'm willing to bet you shall have to start from the beginning. We shall have vital outposts with little to no traffic, otherwise.

prism2525 · Apr 19, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Ritual del Fuego

I wonder if you will have to start from the beginning of a continent in hard mode or if you can zone into any hardmode area if you have already been there in normal mode.

I hope ffs that we won't have to redo the explorer in hard mode. that would be silly.

semantic · Apr 19, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by prism2525

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An uninterruptable trap skill which is a combo of all other non elite traps for Rangers.
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muahaha... sounds great, but I'd settle for Punishing Barrage

Corran Horn · Apr 19, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Wisdom will increase when the lockpick opens a gold chest. So they will count towards Wisdom, some times.

savage vapor 33 · Apr 19, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

So if we unlock an elite skill on a priest we will be able to use it on our PVE char by buying the tome or other ways of acquiring the tome? If thats so, that means they are finding ways to incorporate PVE+PVP finally. This makes me happy.

Whisper Evenstar · Apr 19, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Wow!!! Once again, great job Anet! You guys really impress me lately - so much enrichment of the game experience for no monthly fee - may your business model take over the world!

Silver Spook · Apr 19, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by super strokey

The ones to UW and FOW i agree but the others will be much more im sure

I hope not as it cost 1k at statue. Wish it would be more like 10k so it would be more profitable to go as full party and clear whole area than being easy access for solo farmers 24/7.

Jetdoc · Apr 19, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

"Hard mode will become available to any player who completes a campaign in the standard mode."

I wonder if that means that you simply need to complete the campaign or whether you need to gain Protector for the campaign (i.e. one requires Masters completion for every mission, one does not).

I also wonder if "completing" a campaign means doing every mission, or if it just means completion of the final mission in the campaign....

Bryant Again · Apr 19, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

I'll hold my breath.

.-.

Hope the bad guys arent DOA hard.

Only time can tell at this point, I guess. While it is unlikely that it will be that hard, ANet has been known to "suprise" us in the past.

My fingers are still crossed, nonetheless.

Levi Garett · Apr 19, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Vanquisher sounds awesome. This will really promote full team groups to do both Vanquisher+Explorer titles at the same time. I can't wait!

Oh and I just got all brand new hardware in the mail for a PC upgrade! Good timing Anet! Woot!

Hell Raiser · Apr 19, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by savage vapor 33

So if we unlock an elite skill on a priest we will be able to use it on our PVE char by buying the tome or other ways of acquiring the tome? If thats so, that means they are finding ways to incorporate PVE+PVP finally. This makes me happy.

Well, it doesn't have to be from a priest. Since my monk has capped Feast Of Corruption, it unlocked it for my account; so using the tome on my nec will let me get FoC for him.

Bryant Again · Apr 19, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

"Hard mode will become available to any player who completes a campaign in the standard mode."

I wonder if that means that you simply need to complete the campaign or whether you need to gain Protector for the campaign (i.e. one requires Masters completion for every mission, one does not).

I also wonder if "completing" a campaign means doing every mission, or if it just means completion of the final mission in the campaign....

For all but Prophecies, getting to the final mission meant having to complete all of the missions, anyways. So I don't think it would neccesarily matter.

Revan Bastille · Apr 19, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

For the Vanquisher title, I think that a counter with the number of enemies you still have to kill would be extremely helpful! It may take a bit of the adventure out of the hunt, but if you have to kill harder enemies in the zones, that could take 1hr+. The last thing I want to do is spend all that time killing stuff only to have to go back because I missed a group of pop-ups.

Also for Vanquisher: I wonder if we'll have to kill all the enemies in each Mission? If so, it may take 2 runs to get Masters.

Finally, I'm really excited about the Tomes -- provided that they're a somewhat common drop. 10 professions * about 1000 skills total = I need A LOT of Tomes!!